A Christian Message to LGBT Americans in the Wake of the Orlando Shooting » BarbWire.com

I know that many of you are not only hurting today, you are also angry. And your anger is not just directed at the Muslim terrorist who slaughtered so many of your people. You are also angry at Christians like me, believing that we have helped to create the toxic, hateful atmosphere that led to the horrific massacre.

A gay activist in Charlotte, North Carolina with whom I’ve shared meals and interacted many times expressed his anger towards what he called the “sanctimonious bulls—t” of conservative Christian leaders, saying, “You helped cause this massacre. Your anti-LGBTQ theology assisted in helping others, including the Orlando shooter, in seeing each of our precious LGBTQ lives as dispensable and worthy of death. … F–k your prayers and your chaplains. How ’bout you stop your anti-queer theology that supports our death and despair, huh?”

In your eyes, people like me are hateful bigots, not recognizing the validity of your marriages, not recognizing the depth of your relationships, not recognizing the beauty of your families. […]

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  1. notChristian says:

    We have right to wonder with evangelical Christians (I’m not Christian) who say they sympathize with Orlando victims, are they fake? I ask because Peter J. LaBarbera, Minister Scott Douglas Lively, Clifford P. Kincaid have over the years called gays & lesbians pedophiles, compared gays to Nazis and Fascists such as call them homofascists, but when Orlando happened, they gave sympathy. When I spoke to Min. Scott Douglas Lively on June 9, 2017, I told him that I’m not Christian and that it would not surprise me if it’s true that 1 or more of the 2016 Orlando shooting victims were pedophiles, drug junkies & or drug dealers.

    Scott Douglas Lively admitted that it would not surprise him if 1 or more of the Orlando shooting victims were pedophiles and or drug junkies, though Scott Douglas Lively did not write this in his sympathy article. Scott Douglas Lively has in past called gays and lesbians Nazis with his book Pink Swastika that it could be that Scott Douglas Lively does not care about the Orlando shooting.

    Clifford P. Kincaid and Peter J. LaBarbera have for years called gays and lesbians pedophiles, talked about the higher incidence of drug junkyism among gays, but both gave sympathy to Orlando victims and Peter J. LaBarbera acted surprised (though it’s unsurprising) by Pastor Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson calling the Orlando victims pedophiles. I don’t see Peter J. LaBarbera’s critique because Peter J. LaBarbera has said the same things as Pastors Steven L. Anderson and Roger O. Jimenez have. Again, Pastor Roger O. Jimenez is honest in what he says.

    I don’t think Michael L. Brown is surprised by Christians such as Roger O. Jimenez who call the Orlando victims pedophiles. Pastor Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson are honest in what they say they have no sympathy for Orlando victims.

    I have read gay posters say when they have commented on Charisma regarding Charisma posters and writers-Charisma posters have said the same things as Pastor Roger O. Jimenez, only with milder language than Pastor Roger O. Jimenez. Charisma posters gave sympathy to Orlando victims and condemned Pastors Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson, but Charisma writers and posters say the same things that Pastors Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson, only that Charisma used milder language.

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  2. notChristian says:

    Another thing to add-Possible 1 or more of the Orlando victims were pedophiles & or drug dealers. As it’s a gay/lesbian pub, wouldn’t surprise me if drugs were sold & some victims were pedophiles since gays & lesbians (esp. gays) were often pedophile victims & pedophile victims often turn out to be gay pedophiles in adulthood.

    In gay/lesbian pubs-drugs like Meth, Extasy are sold as drug junkyism high among them. I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out 1 or more of the Orlando victims were pedophiles & or drug dealers.

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  3. notchristian says:

    From my posts 2 days ago, I have a 3d post to add because it proves what I have said. It’s best that if 1 (which includes me) is against gays and lesbians, then it’s best to say nothing and not give sympathy, because that sounds dishonest. Lesbian activist CJ Prince is right when she posted this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cj-prince/save-your-sympathy-tweets_b_10512818.html

    Before I continue, let me say that I am against transsexuals (who are worse than gays and who I regard as the mutilated gays and lesbians). I’m not going to give fake sympathy. I am not a religious person and I am against transexuality. I think homosexuality should be treated the same way as tobacco use by adults, as gay/lesbianism is often result of childhood sex abuse. I do not care about gay marriage.

    I don’t think Michael L. Brown is surprised by Christians such as Roger O. Jimenez who call the Orlando victims pedophiles. Pastor Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson are honest in they say they have no sympathy for Orlando victims.

    Here are 2 things that Dr. Michael L. Brown has posted on Charisma regarding Orlando. Here, Dr. Michael L. Brown critiques Pastor Steven L. Anderson for calling the Orlando victims pedophiles https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/57841-why-pasto

    In another Charisma post, Dr. Michael L. Brown debates Pastor Roger O. Jimenez who also called the Orlando victims pedophiles https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/59374-dr-michae

    I don’t think Dr. Michael L. Brown is shocked and he should not act surprised because it’s unsurprising. Homosexuals posters point out that Charisma writers and posters say the same things as Pastors Steven L. Anderson and Pastor Roger O. Jimenez do because here a Charisma writer compares gays and lesbians to pedophiles, incest etc. https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/59816-next-up-legalization-of-inces

    The last link appears on this website. It’s best to say nothing when people you hate dies and not to give fake sympathy. No, the Orlando shooting was not done by a Christian. But it’s wrong to critique Pastor Roger O. Jimenez, when Charisma says the same thing that Pastor Roger O. Jimenez has.

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  4. notChristian says:

    Yet another post for you as it’s information which I found on Charisma writer Dr. Michael L. Brown. I have links where Michael L. Brown contradicts himself where he talks about gays and pedophilia here https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/63169-milo-cpac-homosexuality-and-pedophilia

    In that link Dr. Michael L. Brown writes ‘while denouncing pedophilia (which is something every gay man I have ever talked to about this has done, without equivocation)’. Dr. Michael L. Brown also writes ‘To repeat: Every gay man who has ever commented to me about pedophilia seemed as repulsed as I was by the thought of an adult sexually abusing a child, and I’m absolutely not equating homosexuality with pedophilia.’

    With the 2 quoted comments, of course the gay men will tell Dr. Michael L. Brown that they denounce pedophilia. I’m sure Dr. Michael L. Brown knows, if a gay man is committing pedophilia and or supports pedophilia, that the gay man is unlikely to tell Dr. Michael L. Brown that he supports pedophilia and or commits pedophilia. I don’t think Michael L. Brown would be shocked if it turns out the gay men who talked to him support pedophilia while saying they denounce it. Michael L. Brown in that same article writes of gay pedophiles Harvey Bernard Milk and Jerry Arthur Sandusky.

    Here’s another post which Dr. Michael L. Brown writes on gay pedophiles https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/42978-walt-disney-insists-on-homosexual-scout-leaders

    In that link Michael L. Brown writes ‘I have no doubt that there would be many devoted gay Scout leaders who would only have the boys’ Scouting interests in mind. And in no way am I saying that most gay men are interested in molesting boys.’

    In that same link Michael L. Brown writes of gay pedophiles ‘But have we learned nothing from the sexual scandals of the Catholic Church, where homosexual priests sexually abused altar boys, many of them in their teens? (This cannot simply be written off as pedophilia, with no homosexual overtones.)’

    Here’s a 3d link where again, Michael L. Brown talks about homosexuality and pedophilia https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/52179-is-pedophilia-next

    In this 4th link Dr. Michael L. Brown here compares homosexuality to incest https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/59165-if-love-is-love-why-can-t-a-mother-marry-her-adult-son

    Homosexual posters on Charisma are right when they say that Charisma writers have said the same thing as Pastor Roger O. Jimenez did where he called gays pedophiles and Michael L. Brown has done the same thing. In the 3 links, Michael L. Brown talks about gay pedophiles though with milder language. In the 4th link Michael L. Brown compares homosexuality to incest.

    Gay posters are right that that they don’t see Charisma’s Michael L. Brown criticism of Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson for calling the Orlando victims pedophiles because as shown in the 4 links, Charisma writer Michael L. Brown has said the same things that Pastor Roger O. Jimenez has, only that Michael L. Brown has used milder language & Michael L. Brown has been more polite. Pastor Roger O. Jimenez and Steven L. Anderson honestly say what they think about the Orlando victims being pedophiles and not trying to hide this.

    Anyhow, I don’t think Dr. Michael L. Brown is shocked by what Pastor Roger O. Jimenez said and he should not act surprised because it’s unsurprising. It’s dishonest for Dr. Michael L. Brown to act surprised, because he has as shown, said the same things that Pastors Anderson and Jimenez have only that Michael L. Brown has usually used milder language and been more polite.

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